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Lyft opens to the public autonomous driving data set from its Level 5 self-driving fleet [TechCrunch]

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BrianTheScrewDriver
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 Posted 4 months, 3 weeks ago

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Scary

https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/23/lyft-opens-autonomous-driving-dataset-from-its-level-5-self-driving-fleet-to-the-public/

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    RedANT
    1073 Rider Driver
     4 months ago

    ROFLMAO.  

    Lyft named their autonomous driving division "Lyft Level 5" which indicates fully autonomous driving, while only "achieving" level 3 "autonomous driving."  

    Just another example of the smoke and mirrors implemented by Lyft designed specifically to confuse and mislead the average person.  

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    jasongraff
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     4 months ago

    Why scary? I think cool.

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      RedANT
      1073 Rider Driver
       4 months ago

      Autonomous vehicles require 100% cellular connections and software to operate.  Do you have that in your area?  Would you risk you life on that assumption?

      Autonomous vehicles can steer and accelerate, but they're far from ever being able to predict the driving behavior of other vehicles.  The only way they will ever be relevant is if ALL vehicles on the road are autonomous, meaning every person who owns a car will have to give it up and pay Uber/Lyft/Waymo everytime they want to go to work, the grocery store, or any other place they regularly travel to. 

      For those of us that own cars, I'm not going to purchase a car that starts at an average of ~$30k, then after paying it off have to surrender it to boost the profits for these companies.  

      Remember:  Autonomous vehicles will not be privately owned.  The will all be owned by companies that you will need to pay if you need to go somewhere.  Also, if you've ever been in a rideshare vehi...

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      Autonomous vehicles require 100% cellular connections and software to operate.  Do you have that in your area?  Would you risk you life on that assumption?

      Autonomous vehicles can steer and accelerate, but they're far from ever being able to predict the driving behavior of other vehicles.  The only way they will ever be relevant is if ALL vehicles on the road are autonomous, meaning every person who owns a car will have to give it up and pay Uber/Lyft/Waymo everytime they want to go to work, the grocery store, or any other place they regularly travel to. 

      For those of us that own cars, I'm not going to purchase a car that starts at an average of ~$30k, then after paying it off have to surrender it to boost the profits for these companies.  

      Remember:  Autonomous vehicles will not be privately owned.  The will all be owned by companies that you will need to pay if you need to go somewhere.  Also, if you've ever been in a rideshare vehicle, you know that the interior often gets TRASHED by passengers.  This happens despite having a driver in the car.  Don't be surprised when you pay for an autonomous vehicle to pick you up, only to find that the previous occupant puked in the back seat, and cancelling for another ride will cost you more.       

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        jasongraff
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         4 months ago

        You bring up some really good points. I have never thought too much before on the "mess" aspect. You are right with no supervision people will trash these cars and who will clean it up? Will there be inside cameras that are monitored so they know when to take cars out of rotation. If so, having someone monitor your ride 24/7 is also a scary concept.


        Why can't these cars be individually owned one day?

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          RedANT
          1073 Rider Driver
           4 months ago

          It's another safety issue.  Such cars would need to be absolutely reliable and perfectly maintained.  How many people do you know that have perfectly maintained vehicles and NEVER have any type of failure?  Anything short of 100% isn't good enough, as one problem can cascade into multiple issues as it works its way through the system.  FWIW, I believe it was Uber (or maybe Waymo) that stated that no private ownership will be a mandatory goal.  (and insanely profitable when billions of people need to use the service daily)  

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      Uberserge
      1234 Rider Driver
       4 months ago

      Do you would ride in an SDC for the same price of a human driven car? You may have to wait about a decade for it.