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Should it be legal to own your own self-driving car?

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cheesehead
524 Rider Driver
 Posted 4 years, 3 months ago

ZipCar, Uber, and other rideshare companies want to make it illegal to own your own self-driving car in the city.

https://cei.org/blog/uber-wants-make-it-illegal-operate-your-own-self-driving-car-cities

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    HemiDodge
    362
     4 years ago

    I live in the burbs. How would I drive into the city on my cool AV?   Park in the outskirts and then switch to Uber?  Sounds like a horrible idea. 

    Some people do that with public transportation where they switch to the subway system.  So basically, Uber just wants to take over city's public buses and trains.  Pretty obvious. 

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    MelissaMyers
    139 Rider
     4 years ago

    Our tax money pays for the infrastructure and the roads. It's completely shameless that a private company wants to make all their money by monopolizing it 

    Unless they plan to pay for all of it, this better not fly. they also would have to buy hat real estate too. Buy all the roads and maintain them yourselves.  Then I'm ok with it. 

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      chawes
      756 Rider Guru
       4 years ago

      Well, I mean, Uber pays taxes too. All companies make money using public resources to varying extents.

      But that said, this idea of theirs is stupid.

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        MelissaMyers
        139 Rider
         4 years ago

        The point is that they want to ban others and keep certain people, demographic, and businesses away from using the infrastructure.

        They probably will claim this for all AVs but how convenient that they are the dominant force and will be the one benefit the most. 

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          chawes
          756 Rider Guru
           4 years ago

          They're not saying no one else can use the road. AVs don't require any special infrastructure, that's not the issue here.

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            MelissaMyers
            139 Rider
             4 years ago

            You are right.  I read it wrong. We can still drive our own cars and buses and trucks can still use the road.

            With that said, this makes sense even less.  So they want to ban all "personally owned self-driving cars"?  Not sure what personally owned or business owned have anything to do with it.

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              StuffinMuffin
              863 Rider Driver
               4 years ago

              Wait, wait.  Melissa is right.  Uber's proposed "principle" does ban all vehicles that are not part of the "automated shared fleets."  So human-operated delivery trucks, taxis, private or personally owned vehicles will all be banned.   and no you can't drive your own cars either.  

              "Uber, Lyft, ZipCar and others propose outlawing personally owned self-driving cars in central cities, leaving the entire urban core market for automated road vehicles in the hands of corporate fleet owners"

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                chawes
                756 Rider Guru
                 4 years ago

                I'm not seeing that. This is the stated principle in question:

                10. WE SUPPORT THAT AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES (AVS) IN DENSE URBAN AREAS SHOULD BE OPERATED ONLY IN SHARED FLEETS.

                Due to the transformational potential of autonomous vehicle technology, it is critical that all AVs are part of shared fleets, well-regulated, and zero emission. Shared fleets can provide more affordable access to all, maximize public safety and emissions benefits, ensure that maintenance and software upgrades are managed by professionals, and actualize the promise of reductions in vehicles, parking, and congestion, in line with broader policy trends to reduce the use of personal cars in dense urban areas.

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              TonyAlmeida
              1149 Rider
               4 years ago

              Actually, you are still right.  Uber is indeed trying to keep certain demographic and cars off the roads, i.e. their turf.  

              Basically, they wan to keep their competition of rideshare AVs off of the road.  This is weird though.  Doesn't this hurt their original goal to have everyone be driving in their spare time?  This move will just make them be the next taxi company.

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      DonutDrivers
      246 Driver Driver
       4 years ago

      Agreed. UberSubway, baby. 

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    tabby
    172 Rider
     4 years ago

    So Uber's trying to become a taxi company now huh. Maybe the local governments should give out medallions for the right to operate an AV.

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      SmittenKitten
      2096 Rider
       4 years ago

      Sounds like it.  They want these cars to be approved and licenses for being the "commercially owned self-driving cars."  and on top of that, they want to promise reductions in vehicles, parking, and congestion....  that's the medallion system!

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    SmittenKitten
    2096 Rider
     4 years ago

    The writer must have been proud to come up with this line. 

    "Uber sees the competition of the future—and it’s you."

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    ant
    122 Rider
     4 years ago

    That doesn't make any sense. Isn't the point of self-driving cars that they, you know, drive themselves? What does it matter if I own it or Uber owns it?

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    kias_revenge
    133 Rider
     4 years ago

    Yes please. I want my own car where I can dump empty mountain dew cans and pizza boxes and not have to worry about getting a cleaning fee for it.

    I'm all for rideshare companies using self driving cars but come on.

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      chicago49
      253 Driver
       4 years ago

      Plus I want to put my own cool devices in it. TV etc. Make my own little self-driving palace.

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    frank3
    53 Rider
     4 years ago

    I'm taking out a loan to get one of these babies! My commute will be so amazing, I'll be eating eggs and bacon and just cruising along.

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    misssarahg
    82 Rider
     4 years ago

    This is ridiculous. Uber needs to be brought down a peg.