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It is not legal to force a rider to tip but it is legal to add a surcharge to the fare that goes directing to the driver. 5% fuel surcharge , 5% maintenance charge and a 10% service surcharge and there is your right to collect a 20% tip from each ride legally .
Using Uber tactics to make Tips into a Surcharge
Posted 5 years, 7 months ago
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Frank Cicero (Bigfrank)
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Lipstick on a pig.
We don't need confusing hidden charges to make extra money, the rideshare companies just need to raise rates so drivers don't need to beg for tips to survive.
Some restaurants automatically add gratuity in for servers. Would make sense and would help drivers but anything that helps us is a no no in Uber & Lyfts eyes. I dont care how or where the increase comes from. Increase fares gradually over next 30 to 60 days 15% then another 10/15%. Give drivers 20% Lyft & Uber can take the other 5/10%. They wont increase fares and give it all to driver only reason I said to give them 5/10%. Passengers are hooked they will still use the service. For example I use to get 2GB of data on my cell plan my kids ran out all the time we switched to another cell co & got 10GB. Kids still running out. Finally they offered unlimited but didnt increase price. I now use over 10GB along with there kids. If Co. decided to go back to 10GB or pay more I would have to pay as I am to use to it and need it. I know other companies offer unlimited plans. Just pointing out that when people are used to ceratain things they will pay. In most mark…
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Some restaurants automatically add gratuity in for servers. Would make sense and would help drivers but anything that helps us is a no no in Uber & Lyfts eyes. I dont care how or where the increase comes from. Increase fares gradually over next 30 to 60 days 15% then another 10/15%. Give drivers 20% Lyft & Uber can take the other 5/10%. They wont increase fares and give it all to driver only reason I said to give them 5/10%. Passengers are hooked they will still use the service. For example I use to get 2GB of data on my cell plan my kids ran out all the time we switched to another cell co & got 10GB. Kids still running out. Finally they offered unlimited but didnt increase price. I now use over 10GB along with there kids. If Co. decided to go back to 10GB or pay more I would have to pay as I am to use to it and need it. I know other companies offer unlimited plans. Just pointing out that when people are used to ceratain things they will pay. In most markets everybody uses Uber or Lyft they both raise rates there are no issues. You know once one does it other will follow. Yes they may loose a few riders. Especially those that use it to go a mile up the the road but drivers I know wouldnt care. Hate those rides anyway. People may also pick pool more but once they take a ride or 2 with pool they will go back to Uber X and Lyft. I sometimes wonder what people did before Uber & Lyft. I do a lot of late nights (overnight). People get into jams all the time. For example 3 separate riders took a train out of NY at 2am few weeks back. Guy who collects tickets was asked to wake them when they got to Newark NJ. He didnt. My rider woke up in Princeton NJ. Woke the others. Train station was deserted no cabs around. Each called an Uber. My rider couldn't thank me enough, said I was sent from Heaven lol. He said he had no idea what to do. 35.00 tip and insisted on paying Turnpike toll even though it was included in his fare. His phone was almost dead he had no idea what taxi co to call. The ride was approx. 68 miles 70 min to get him home. A cab ride wouldve cost him a fortune and he probably wouldve waited really long for it to get there. People have been using U and L for yrs now they wont give it up for a 20/30% increase it.
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Well thanks for your input and we hope for the best
Thats all we can do is hope one or both realizes their self driving cars are not going to be ready as fast as they hoped. They are going to still need drivers. If they dont do something soon all the decent drivers may just up and leave. I love doing what I want and when I want and still making ok $. Dont know how much longer that is going to last. They will be stuck with idiots that advertise they are screwing riders with surge or idiots that drive around with filthy cars and no customer service skills.
Self driving cars are a LONG way off. At least, at any level that they affect us. I would say 20 years+. Probably more. It's nice that they can navigate a city now, but they're really in their infancy. To get to the point where they can do it fast (without losing safety) and reliable in all weather is going to take a long, long time. TBH I don't know if we will see one that can handle a real winter in our lifetimes. I think you can rest easy momof4.
I think long distance truckers will be affected by this long before we are. I would be more nervous if I was one of them but even they probably have a good decade or more before it really hits them if you ask me.
hopefully let it be the tightwad to take the driverless cars maybe it will take them right up the Ho Chi Minh trail
Ok... how exactly do you plan to enact this? Just tell pax they owe you another 20% at the end of the ride? Some passenger will complain and you'll get fired. Calling it.
It will be built into their fare just the same as their surcharges so you don't to do anything and if they or them or he or she doesn't like it here is always mass transit. We are not employees and Uber does not contribute to our social security , pension healthcare and etc so surcharges that benefit only the driver is a must.
Oh I see. You mean Uber would charge it. I misunderstood you.
But that is basically the same as Uber just raising their fares. They won't do it because they are in competition with Lyft. Frankly if they are going to charge more for some reason, they are going to just pocket it themselves. They are public now and shareholders will demand that drivers get paid just enough to keep them and no more. Sorry to be dark but that's how I see it.
Love the creative thinking. Let us know how it goes.
I know they will not do it but it has been done before and it is not unheard of in the tipping business. It is a must that drivers band together on all issues for our well being