×
×

Compare rides on the mobile app.

Access real time surge, wait times, and more.

Post New Topic

If drivers are really losing money with Uber then why do you keep driving for Uber?

{{ ratingSum }}
babarett
171 Rider
 Posted 1 year, 1 month ago

I just don't get it, everyone always complains that they don't make any money with Uber but if you really were losing money then why would you keep driving....???

Featured Answers

Comments

Comment on this Post

    {{ ratingSum }}
    DaveWhittle
    213
     8 months ago

    Some general observations on your question before I answer it:

    • Most drivers don't really know whether they're losing money with Uber or making money. Most believe they're making money because they can see the deposits in the bank but they can't see the depreciation on their car or the repair bills that they haven't had to pay yet.
    • The day of reckoning for depreciation and repairs and new tires will come someday. That's when a lot of drivers stop driving, because they've spent the deposits and now can't afford the day-of-reckoning cost hit.
    • The nicer and more expensive your car, the higher your costs as a driver and the more likely it is you're losing money unless you're consistently getting a lot of SELECT or LUX SUV or BLACK rides.
    • If you're driving a $2,000 car that barely meets Uber's qualifications and doesn't have much value to lose to depreciation, you're making more money than someone who has an expensive car - but very few people make what Uber or Lyft claim ...

    Read more...

    Some general observations on your question before I answer it:

    • Most drivers don't really know whether they're losing money with Uber or making money. Most believe they're making money because they can see the deposits in the bank but they can't see the depreciation on their car or the repair bills that they haven't had to pay yet.
    • The day of reckoning for depreciation and repairs and new tires will come someday. That's when a lot of drivers stop driving, because they've spent the deposits and now can't afford the day-of-reckoning cost hit.
    • The nicer and more expensive your car, the higher your costs as a driver and the more likely it is you're losing money unless you're consistently getting a lot of SELECT or LUX SUV or BLACK rides.
    • If you're driving a $2,000 car that barely meets Uber's qualifications and doesn't have much value to lose to depreciation, you're making more money than someone who has an expensive car - but very few people make what Uber or Lyft claim you can make per hour.  Supply and demand sees to that.

    So with those points in mind, consider my answer to your question of why if drivers are losing money, they keep driving:

    1. They think they're making more money than they really are and aren't even aware that they're losing money.  They pay close attention to the deposits in their bank account but not much attention to their costs.
    2. Some are willing to trade the value of their vehicle for cash in order to meet short-term needs. These short-term needs can take many forms, such as medical bills, rent, some big bill that just arose, or even food.  Uber/Lyft absolutely lets them do that.
    3. Some are getting intangible benefits from driving, such as social validation or psychic rewards.
    4. Some find driving to be almost like a game or form of entertainment, learning how to maximize income, finding better rides, mastering surges (haha), and so on. 
    5. In fact, many drivers are being manipulated by Uber without knowing it. Uber uses very sophisticated psychological technigues to motivate drivers to do what's in Uber's best interests, whether or not it's in the drivers' best interests.

    In other words, there are many reasons drivers keep driving for Uber or Lyft even though they're not making as much money as they thought they would.

    Read less...

    Show Hide  2 Replies
      {{ ratingSum }}
      BrianTheScrewDriver
      276 Driver Driver
       6 months ago

      This is a quality post.  

      #1 - The one on how drivers don't know how much they are making is a bit sad.  but in a way, it's Uber's way of hiding the real cost of running this driving business.

      #2 - Trading in the value of their car for their short-term needs.  Again, sad.  but so true, as it beats up on your car so much.

      #3 and #4 - These talk to playing a game, social validation, psychic rewards.  Again, a bit sad, but very true.

      #5 - Being manipulated.  Yikes. Again I agree.

      {{ ratingSum }}
      JPoland
      156 Driver Driver
       5 months ago

      Jeez, I had so much to say when I read the topic but you covered all points I could think of. Save some for the rest of us, man!!  LOL

    {{ ratingSum }}
    ChristianPerea
    113 Driver
     8 months ago

    Ahhhhhh I always love this question! It’s kind of like Scrooge McDuck asking “Why don’t you just stop being so poor!?”

    For starters, most of us don’t lose money. On average, we probably make about minimum wage. This changes city-by-city, by car, by driver, etc.

    Perhaps most importantly though, is that some people need cash TODAY. They need it for rent, for medicine, food, or perhaps a suit for a job interview. Most of the money “lost” while driving for Uber comes in the form of depreciation on our cars. So even though a driver may know they’re losing money in the long run, they also know they can prevent a calamity TODAY by driving some more and extracting the equity from their car.

    Secondly, most people actually do quit driving. In fact, according to page 10 of this Uber-partnered study, 68.1% of brand new drivers will quit in just 6 months!

    But again, many of us drivers are just stuck for n...

    Read more...

    Ahhhhhh I always love this question! It’s kind of like Scrooge McDuck asking “Why don’t you just stop being so poor!?”

    For starters, most of us don’t lose money. On average, we probably make about minimum wage. This changes city-by-city, by car, by driver, etc.

    Perhaps most importantly though, is that some people need cash TODAY. They need it for rent, for medicine, food, or perhaps a suit for a job interview. Most of the money “lost” while driving for Uber comes in the form of depreciation on our cars. So even though a driver may know they’re losing money in the long run, they also know they can prevent a calamity TODAY by driving some more and extracting the equity from their car.

    Secondly, most people actually do quit driving. In fact, according to page 10 of this Uber-partnered study, 68.1% of brand new drivers will quit in just 6 months!

    But again, many of us drivers are just stuck for now. We have elderly family members who need taking care of, kids, finicky diseases, etc. Some of us are sole breadwinners. So we can’t just “stop driving” and go down to the job store and pick up a six-pack of better paying jobs or we would!

    I stick around because I love cars, driving, and talking to strangers when I shouldn’t. I also find this whole industry intriguing.

    Read less...

    {{ ratingSum }}
    JenniferLane
     6 months ago

    Because... I need the money and admittedly I've been seduced by the fact that I can download my earnings the same day/evening that I drove Uber for the money. Is it much money? Nope. But it's more than a bunch of nothing. Like many people in the "Gig Economy", I work two part time jobs and don't make enough at either job to quit one.

    Show Hide  4 Replies
      {{ ratingSum }}
      bBerman81
      239 Rider
       5 months ago

      Right. It isn’t always easy to make money or hold multiple jobs. I do appreciate the opportunity to pick up the app, leverage the resources and skills I already have access to (i.e. driving), and make a few bucks.

      I’m a huge fan of gig economy but it did jack up the supply and demand balance in so many areas of the market. Uber pretty much wrecked the livelihood of those in the driving industry, single-handedly. 

      What makes me especially sad is that they didn’t have to. The pricing didn’t have to undercut the existing businesses, ie taxis, to this point. It was wreckless and really broke the balance of people’s expectation and worker’s pay. 

      {{ ratingSum }}
      RebTrice
       6 months ago

      I think the poster is a jerk, but I'd imagine an element of his question is asking, "why wouldn't you do something else if you hate Uber so much."  There are more ways than Uber to make money.

        {{ ratingSum }}
        BrianTheScrewDriver
        276 Driver Driver
         6 months ago

        Sensitive topic but it isn't necessary a horrible one.  Let me try to answer.

        Why don't I quit my job as an Uber driver?  Probably the same reason you don't just quit your job because your boss sucked, you don't get paid enough, or hours suck.  We all do this to make a living, and we do what we don't like to do.

        Of course, we can complain just as you do about your job.  Speaking up is good, as it calls for action to improve the system.  

        If I were to spell it out? I do Uber because I do like the flexible hours that it brings, and I frankly think I am really good at it.  

      {{ ratingSum }}
      twersk77
      175 Driver
       6 months ago

      great answer...

    {{ ratingSum }}
    RedANT
    834 Driver
     8 months ago

    Profitability varies greatly depending on the city in which you drive, the time(s) that you drive, the drivers ability to manage their time, their actual expenses, and many, many, many other variables. 

    Do we make huge amounts of cash?  No.  Uber/Lyft do, however, afford many of us (I'm twice retired) the opportunity to get out of the house and interact with others. 

    How much do I make? 

    * This week (Mon-Wed) I worked 13.4 hrs with Uber, and 7.2 hrs with Lyft.  (20.6 hrs)

    * I made $437 with Uber, and $190 with Lyft.  ($627)

    * My expenses:  $65 for gas.  $75 to savings ($25 /day for replacement $12k vehicle every two years) 

    $627 - $140 = $487 net /20.6 hrs = $23.64 /hr after expenses. 

    Driving for Uber/Lyft is far from being a high paying job, but for me it's fine as a side gig after retirement. 

    Show Hide  8 Replies
      {{ ratingSum }}
      ChrisNorway1
       8 months ago

      Thanks for sharing.  I don't drive but this is very educational.

      I agree that this is a interesting and rewarding job.  So perfect for a side gig.  You already have a car, and the flexibility must be awesome.

      So your expense calculation doesn't calculate the maintenance and car upkeep, right?   Or is the $75/week supposed to cover that for wear/tear, maintenance and repairs?  I've tried to do th emath once and failed miserably beacuse I didn't know how much maintenance and repair costs would increase after I beat it up as an Uber car.

        {{ ratingSum }}
        RedANT
        834 Driver
         8 months ago

        In my stated calculations, I neglected to add maintenance and upkeep, although I consider those to be minor expenses.  I subscribe to the service department email specials from (5) local Nissan dealerships, and generally have maintenance done once a month for ~$50 special.  (Full synthetic + tire rotation + 100 pt inspection earlier this week was $57)  Four new tires cost me $425 and are warrantied for 50k miles. (If you're a Costco member, get a price quote for tires, then have Firestone match it at 200% of the difference.  The savings will pay for your annual Costco membership fees) 

        $425 per year for tires and $600 for oil and tire rotation is ~$1k per year, fairly in line with what I paid for service even before I drove for Uber and Lyft.  All things considered, in my case one can either put aside $20 a week for maintenance, of do as I do and establish credit card accounts for my business and charge/pay for items as required.  (I also use Gas...

        Read more...

        In my stated calculations, I neglected to add maintenance and upkeep, although I consider those to be minor expenses.  I subscribe to the service department email specials from (5) local Nissan dealerships, and generally have maintenance done once a month for ~$50 special.  (Full synthetic + tire rotation + 100 pt inspection earlier this week was $57)  Four new tires cost me $425 and are warrantied for 50k miles. (If you're a Costco member, get a price quote for tires, then have Firestone match it at 200% of the difference.  The savings will pay for your annual Costco membership fees) 

        $425 per year for tires and $600 for oil and tire rotation is ~$1k per year, fairly in line with what I paid for service even before I drove for Uber and Lyft.  All things considered, in my case one can either put aside $20 a week for maintenance, of do as I do and establish credit card accounts for my business and charge/pay for items as required.  (I also use GasBuddy with my connected business debit card, with points credited to my ShopYourWay Uber account for free stuff)

        Read less...

          {{ ratingSum }}
          ChrisNorway1
           8 months ago

          You mentioned you drive 20 hours a week.  Is that consistent and how many miles would that total?  I saw another post that mentioned "fulltime" drivers can drive 1000 miles a week.  Is that in line with what you do?

          $20 a week in increased maintenance is not a problem.

            {{ ratingSum }}
            RedANT
            834 Driver
             8 months ago

            The 20 hrs is what I worked Monday thru Wednesday.  ("In total this week, M-Th (Took today off and I don't work weekends) I worked 17.4 hrs with Uber, and 8.5 hrs with Lyft.  TOTAL:  25.9 hrs   I made $590.28 with Uber and $253.59 with Lyft. 

            $843.87 in 25.9 hrs = $32.58 /hr GROSS, with 842 miles driven  If I had driven today, my weekly mileage would probably have been close to 1k, which averages to an oil change a month and 1 set of tires per year. 

            Am I getting rich from driving?  Nope.  (I make much, much more off retirement pensions, investments and rental properties)  An extra $3,000 to $4,000 doesn't hurt, though, and it paid for my recent 3 week national parks cross country tour and for my upcoming vacation to Europe.

          {{ ratingSum }}
          revoconto
           8 months ago

          You get maintenance done every month?

          I guess I am way behind on this. Probably why I have more car issues...

            {{ ratingSum }}
            RedANT
            834 Driver
             8 months ago

            "Monthly" = approx every 4k miles, which is the recommendation by the car manufacturer.  I do the dealership specials so that all of the maintenance is on record for warranty purposes. 

              {{ ratingSum }}
              HaileyGraff
               8 months ago

              That's a lot of miles.  48K a year.  The dealership must be like, "woah" every time.

              "You own a Nissan that's 4 years old and it has 200K?!"  LOL.

                {{ ratingSum }}
                RedANT
                834 Driver
                 8 months ago

                A few months ago I purchased a 2016 Altima for $12k.  (was previously a dealer loaner car with 15k miles)  I has the windows tinted for $175, installed fog lights for $100, added a spoiler for $175, and upgraded to HID lighting for $190.  The car runs like new, and after two years I'll have a 4 year old vehicle with ~100k miles worth $5-$7k.  Did it depreciate?  Sure.  It will have lost approx $5k in value, however in that time period I'll have made $80-90K, which, for me, was a worthwhile, tax deductible business expense.  YMMV

    {{ ratingSum }}
    KrisL
    Driver
     8 months ago

    I started driving Uber when I lost my job but we only have one car in my family and after about a month of it it just was putting too much wear and tear on my car.

    I don't lose money with Uber but I also do postmates as well and I make about 300 a day when I drive, that's my daily goal so I only have to drive a few days each week and can have a life lol. 

    I started to rent from ZenCar.club after I had to pay out a bunch of money to get my alternator fixed and my wife wanted me to quit "ruining our car" so and I just work an extra day during the week to offset that and our famly car is safe and sound, plus she can use it whenever she needs to so that's a lot better lol. 

    I just don't understand how people can say they don't make moeny with Uber...but yeah I guess location has a lot to do with it. I live in Los Angeles and you really can't just walk to places or take public transportation so I really do get a ton of rides on the days I work and I never have to worry about that stuff. I pretty much schedule my days around peak times and peak areas so I'm smart about it. 

    Show Hide  5 Replies
      {{ ratingSum }}
      JustSchmidt
      Rider
       8 months ago

      I always used to think owning a car was a sunk cost.  It just sits there anyways, so why not drive it, right?  Minus gas, of course.   What do you mean by too much wear and tear?  Did you start seeing more maintenance bills?  

      yeah, we dont' have a choice on location.  Where you live is the market you will drive in.  No way around that.  (thuogh my friends in NJ sometimes drive in all kinds of locations, including PA and DE.)

        {{ ratingSum }}
        KrisL
        Driver
         8 months ago  (edited 8 months ago)

        Yeah I saw way more maintainence, my family car is a bit older but we had gone for years without having any issues at all and then all of a sudden after I was driving for a bit it's all new brakes here, new tires there, new belts, new alternator, that sort of thing. I was putting so many miles on it all it once and it wasn't used to being driven that much. My wife works from home and I used to work right down the road so I wasn't really driving very much before I lost my job. 

        Right now I just have zencar and they take care of all the maintainence and oil changes, tires, and everything so it's a win-win for me because if something else had happened to my family car and I wasnt able to pay for it my whole family would be screwed :/ I can't risk that.

        To clarify, I own my family car outright so it's not like I'm making payments on that plus leasing a zencar lol. 

          {{ ratingSum }}
          StuffinMuffin
          702 Driver Rider
           8 months ago

          This is the problem.  Uber goes great lengths to hide the fact that being a driver really beats up on your car.  This isn't some gig you can do with only the upsides.  The problem is that it's very hard to calculate these costs of car maintenance, so many don't do it and Uber gets the benefit of the doubt that being a driver is a lucrative business.

          {{ ratingSum }}
          ronmistretta
           8 months ago

          I am in this exact same scenario. We only have one family car, owned outright, and I am debating doing Uber but worry about running down the car. I can imagine it definitely starts to take a toll.

          I have to look into some of these rental options more, do you feel like zencar is the best option?

      {{ ratingSum }}
      JenniferLane
       6 months ago

      Hi KrisL, I'm glad you mentioned the idea that location has a lot to do with it. I live/work in the Tampa Bay Florida area -- in a recently published Rideshare study, one of the WORST rated areas for rideshare pay in the country, aka $9 or so an hour. So - at the moment - I'm a tad stuck in a rut after 11 months of driving Uber. Low, but instant, pay. I'm looking for a more lucrative, 5 days a week "regular" job so I can go back to having a life on the weekends AND make decent money again. I'm kinda proud of myself I stuck it out with Uber this long, tho'.  Thanks for your comments!

    {{ ratingSum }}
    SmittenKitten
    1637 Rider
     1 year ago

    Well, many aren't staying with Uber, right?  Something like 50% of all Uber drivers become inactive within the first year.

    50% of all Uber drivers quit within the first 12 months

    {{ ratingSum }}
    DaimsLer
    247
     8 months ago

    Doesn't the OP know that capitalism is a farce?  It's an illusion of free market we live under. 

    {{ ratingSum }}
    lacy
    160 Rider Driver
     8 months ago

    I drive for Lyft instead of Uber, but I do make money. It seems to me that people count the opportunity cost of driving as the reason people are not making money. There are times that it appears I am losing money when I am driving, but that is because if I do not have a time frame to be somewhere I will use the app and drive. I do not always get a fare, but when I do it actually offsets the cost of my traveling across town. 

    Another reason is that you can always earn money by choosing to drive more often or around events, so even if you are not earning as much it is possible to make ends meet if you are having monetary difficulty. This is especially true for people who have trouble finding jobs. I do now have a job but I applied for almost a year before I could find work. In the meantime, Lyft was my entire source of income and while it did not pay as well as my last job, it kept my head above water. 

    Show Hide  2 Replies
      {{ ratingSum }}
      Bigfrank
      305 Driver Driver Rider
       8 months ago

      Why they really don't make money is for the following reasons :  Most drivers do not know the value of money in terms of inflation  and the rates for a nyc medallion is too cheap compared to other cities including forein countries so the uberized rates is sinfully and hurtful to unsuspecting drivers. You should never and ever buy a new car for app driving because you will lose on the front end and when your ready to sell your high mileage junk pile you must add 50000 miles to it and that is how much your car is worth. Black exterior is the worst color to have in NYC because it tell people to key it,kick it, open the door and hit something . Black will stay clean for a few hours in NYC and it's time for another $10 car wash which equals to about $2000 a year. Then throw in TLC insurance ,TLC RIPOFF tax stamp, TLC taxi maids giving out expensive tickets, NYC traffic maids who hates taxis and love giving tickets and NYPD who loves us the most . Now let's not forget who rips the drivers the most UBER, LYFT 38 %  commission ,are you F#$%*KIN serious ?  A quote from Archie Bunker , Dummy Up !!!  

        {{ ratingSum }}
        RedANT
        834 Driver
         8 months ago

        Driving in NYC can be a vastly different experience from what most drivers experience in other cities.  I pay $50 for my business license, I get unlimited car washes for $36 /mo, the rideshare insurance rider from my insurance company is $20 /mo, and I avoid cops/tickets. (My last ticket was in 1987) 

        I don't make as much as I did before retirement, but I make enough to comfortably supplement my income and fund several vacation trips per year.  YMMV.

    {{ ratingSum }}
    DmianBlair
     8 months ago

    Some are bad at math or just aren't properly accounting for their non-cash expenses.

    Some aren't in it for the money. (i.e. Retirees who just want to get out of the house, Realtors looking for leads, Musicians looking for gigs, etc.)

    Others might not have better opportunities or may feel trapped.

    The rest of us have figured the more profitable days/times/areas to drive and/or how to minimize our expenses.

    Show Hide  1 Reply
      {{ ratingSum }}
      dShaperoMDM
       8 months ago

      "Retirees who just want to get out of the house, Realtors looking for leads, Musicians looking for gigs, etc.)"

      Damn, really? I actually once thought being a realtor would be a good side gig for an Uber driver (or vice versa) because of th flexible hours but never thought of leads being generated as an Uber driver. 

      Musicians. LOL. They must carry their guitar in the front seat?

    {{ ratingSum }}
    HemiDodge
    351
     9 months ago

    because they don't have any targeted skillsets.   they don't have other choices.

    ..or I can be more PC and say that that's what their career path is and has been.  Many have driven for taxis in the past, and others have driven for limos.

    {{ ratingSum }}
    DimSumUng
    105
     9 months ago

    oooh, so offensive and insensitive.  

    {{ ratingSum }}
    RPaulson
    542 Driver
     9 months ago

    We drive because this is our livelihood.  Just like any other job, we have made a choice to pick up this profession.  This is what we do well, this is where our experience is, this is what fits best into our lifestyle, and this is what we enjoy.

    {{ ratingSum }}
    bett
    Rider
     1 year ago

    We live ina country of borrowers - people take loans on cars, heck people even borrow money these days to buy a $75 bean bag chair... so much interest leads to making no money.

    Show Hide  5 Replies
      {{ ratingSum }}
      changingtides
       9 months ago

      Right, half of the drivers complaing have to pay a $600 lease every month. If you saved up and bought a car outright, driving for Uber is actually pretty good money.

        {{ ratingSum }}
        RuvenGolan
         8 months ago

        minimum wage is pretty good?

          {{ ratingSum }}
          StuffinMuffin
          702 Driver Rider
           8 months ago

          Uber's new recruiting slogan. "Do what you love and you'll never work another day in your life. We pay $4.00/hour while you enjoy life."

          {{ ratingSum }}
          actingfool
           8 months ago

          LOL these people have obviously never driven for Uber. Even with owning your car outright (as most drivers do), it is still terrible money.

      {{ ratingSum }}
      cheesehead
      470 Driver Rider
       8 months ago

      You tell me where you can find a $75 beanbag chair and maybe I"ll believe you... those things cost a couple hundred bucks at least, and that's for the cheap ones.

    {{ ratingSum }}
    joeyj
    394 Driver Rider
     8 months ago

    I make more than minimum wage. Yes, I am taking into account all of my expenses.

    I make a decent living, and am my own boss. I make my own hours. I don't have some dude wearing khakis and a polo shirt breathing down my neck telling me to get my TPS reports done. Instead, I meet interesting people on a daily basis and get to just drive around all day.

    That's why.

    {{ ratingSum }}
    DDominico69
    149 Driver
     8 months ago

    This question is so offensive, I don't even know how to respond.  Is it ignorance or elitest.

    Show Hide  1 Reply
      {{ ratingSum }}
      EjiEzeEze
      306 Rider Driver
       8 months ago

      Might as well have people ask than them wonder and not tell the rest.  I'd rather people ask and learn than assume otherwise.

    {{ ratingSum }}
    WWBlueStuff
    257 Driver
     8 months ago

    See, this job isn't just about money either.  People focus on minimum wages and how the drivers are starving and all that.   but you know something?  I love the flexibility.  It's a lifestyle.  There is almost a priceless aspect of being an Uber driver.

    I have done the corporate office thing. While I did it for 17 years, it wasn't my thing.  I tremendously enjoy being a driver, helping people, with ultimate flexibility, and 40 hours a week doesn't seem like 40 hours.

    No one is "losing" money.  Drivers who are saying they are losing money are lying.  Sure, some trips are bad and you feel like you are losing money, but you are not. Under minimum wage sometimes?  Sure, I guess.  It depends no how you do the math. Are you dividing by ALL The hours you are on the road?  or are you dividing by the house you are driving customers?

    Should you get paid for the time you sat and read a book in a Walmart parking lot?  What ab...

    Read more...

    See, this job isn't just about money either.  People focus on minimum wages and how the drivers are starving and all that.   but you know something?  I love the flexibility.  It's a lifestyle.  There is almost a priceless aspect of being an Uber driver.

    I have done the corporate office thing. While I did it for 17 years, it wasn't my thing.  I tremendously enjoy being a driver, helping people, with ultimate flexibility, and 40 hours a week doesn't seem like 40 hours.

    No one is "losing" money.  Drivers who are saying they are losing money are lying.  Sure, some trips are bad and you feel like you are losing money, but you are not. Under minimum wage sometimes?  Sure, I guess.  It depends no how you do the math. Are you dividing by ALL The hours you are on the road?  or are you dividing by the house you are driving customers?

    Should you get paid for the time you sat and read a book in a Walmart parking lot?  What about that time you decided to stop back into your house and ate a sandwich?  The time you decided to snooze no a nice breezy day?  Should you get paid for those times?

    I enjoy driving, and I do make a good living. Perhaps not a luxurious lifestyle, but I am available for my kids during the day, take a random day off, don't bother with commuting, etc.

    Read less...

    Show Hide  2 Replies
      {{ ratingSum }}
      ShigMiyamoto
      121
       8 months ago

      Good point on the hours you are sitting in a lot parking lot knitting your sweater.

      Here's an equivalent argument.  Take office workers who spend an hour in traffic or a train?  (probably twice a day) Do they consider those two hours as working hours?  nope.

        {{ ratingSum }}
        WWBlueStuff
        257 Driver
         8 months ago

        Now, only if you could make money knitting sweaters...

    {{ ratingSum }}
    jeffrey1987
    Driver
     1 year ago

    Well we do make some money just not a lot so it feels good to complain.

    Show Hide  2 Replies
      {{ ratingSum }}
      andsold
       9 months ago

      JUST LET US COMPLAIN!

      Everyone complains about their jobs, this OP needs to chill out.

      {{ ratingSum }}
      sally
      Driver
       1 year ago

      yep.

    {{ ratingSum }}
    Derrick07091986
     7 months ago

        People drive for A Transportation Company because, they have their own hours, there is no other human looking over their shoulders, drivers meet multiple individuals, and drivers can manage other parts of their lives as a result of not having to stay in a building all day. -

         With these common options in mind, it does not derail Uber Technologies LLC. from being morally and ethically just to its counterparts, the drivers. 

        It is not good to take advantage of people. It is not wise for an organization in the long run, due to the inescapable law of “cause and effect”. 

       If deceit, lies, scams, thievery, greed is part of an organization, that organization will receive those same traits in return. i.e Lawsuits. Loss. Death. Disease. Corruption. Downfalls within the Organization, be it sooner or later. For the Laws of the Universe is impersonal, it is just. 

        And I believe, one day...

    Read more...

        People drive for A Transportation Company because, they have their own hours, there is no other human looking over their shoulders, drivers meet multiple individuals, and drivers can manage other parts of their lives as a result of not having to stay in a building all day. -

         With these common options in mind, it does not derail Uber Technologies LLC. from being morally and ethically just to its counterparts, the drivers. 

        It is not good to take advantage of people. It is not wise for an organization in the long run, due to the inescapable law of “cause and effect”. 

       If deceit, lies, scams, thievery, greed is part of an organization, that organization will receive those same traits in return. i.e Lawsuits. Loss. Death. Disease. Corruption. Downfalls within the Organization, be it sooner or later. For the Laws of the Universe is impersonal, it is just. 

        And I believe, one day, there  will  be regulations and third-parties in place, overseeing Uber Technologies LLC.’s core values, integrity's, actions, and to making  sure there is purity and justice for all.

    Read less...

    {{ ratingSum }}
    jjsmith
     9 months ago

    Some drivers who have been doing it for a while know how to strategically plan rides so they make money. The numbers that get published are averages of everyone. 

    {{ ratingSum }}
    SyedAli
    213 Driver
     9 months ago

    because we need to live!!!

    Show Hide  2 Replies
      {{ ratingSum }}
      JBurdHop
      183 Rider
       8 months ago

      You have it mistaken.  What you are looking for is living wage.  not minimum wage.

      Difference?  I forgot.  LOL.  It's like how it's calculated.  I can't even tell you which one is higher.

        {{ ratingSum }}
        ShigMiyamoto
        121
         8 months ago

        I believe minimum is lower than the living wage.

        Also, minimum is set by federal and state.  living is set by some economists, I believe.

    {{ ratingSum }}
    mrfeeney
    Rider
     1 year ago

    LOL becuase they are not losing money, just not making a lot and people love to exagerate and complain...

    {{ ratingSum }}
    dracomalfoy
    169 Driver
     1 year ago

    We used to make more money till Uber cut all our profits, I guess I'm hoping that there will be a day when the profits rise again?

    Show Hide  1 Reply
      {{ ratingSum }}
      jutre
      113 Driver
       1 year ago

      Why would you ever think Uber would raise it's rates?! Such a fat chance!

    {{ ratingSum }}
    ThomBrady
    122
     9 months ago

    Ain't that the question.