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Uber Disabled Volvo SUV's Safety System Before Fatality [Bloomberg]

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BGraft89
614 Rider Driver
 Posted 2 years, 7 months ago

Are they getting desperate?  It's a total deflection tactic.  Trying to shift the blame away from their technology but the answer is even more pathetic.  "We forgot we turned it off."  I mean, someone has to explain the "why".

Let the blame game begin!  Aptiv vs. Uber.

"Uber Technologies, Inc. disabled the standard collision-avoidance technology in the Volvo SUV that struck and killed a woman in Arizona last week, according to the auto-parts maker that supplied the vehicle’s radar and camera.

“We don’t want people to be confused or think it was a failure of the technology that we supply for Volvo, because that’s not the case,” Zach Peterson, a spokesman for Aptiv Plc, said by phone. The Volvo XC90’s standard advanced driver-assistance system “has nothing to do” with the Uber test vehicle’s autonomous driving system, he said.

Aptiv Pic is desperate to survive here.  They are crapping on Uber with this desperate explanation.

Intel Corp.’s Mobileye, which makes chips and sensors used in collision-avoidance systems and is a supplier to Aptiv, said Monday that it tested its own software after the crash by playing a video of the Uber incident on a television monitor. Mobileye said it was able to detect Herzberg one second before impact in its internal tests, despite the poor second-hand quality of the video relative to a direct connection to cameras equipped to the car.

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    KateHarley68
    102
     2 years ago

    This is like a security company saying, "we had all these sensors and alarms, but we didn't have them on.  So it's not our fault you got robbed."

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      LandLoverRover
      104
       2 years ago

      No, it's more like, "We have all these doors to keep people out, but we didn't shut them.  It's not our fault."

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        kmcdonald1
        101
         2 years ago

        No, it's more like Chipotle saying, "We made bacteria-ridden burritos, but since you ate it, it's your fault.  Not mine."

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          babarett
          186 Rider
           2 years ago

          Don't hate on Chipotle man.

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    chawes
    749 Rider Guru
     2 years ago

    Wait, what? This needs way more explanation. Way more questions than answers. None of this makes sense.

    Why did Uber disable it?

    Did they know it was disabled?

    Did the driver disable it?

    Do drivers even have that ability? Why?

    Why is it even possible to disable the collision avoidance software at all?

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      BGraft89
      OP 614 Rider Driver
       2 years ago

      Always put your money on the most ovvious answer. In this case, Aptiv's sensor malfunctioned and they're just making excuses. 

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        FuegoJuno
        128
         2 years ago

        I agree the truth is probably stupider than we are suspecting but there must be one twist more than what you are saying.  Like how Uber didn't install the latest software from Aptiv or any software for that matter because they're Uber and they can do whatever they want. 

        They ignored all communications from Aptiv just like they ignore inquiries from their drivers.  Remember Travis, Dara, and their entire big boys culture are completely assh*les. 

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        chawes
        749 Rider Guru
         2 years ago

        If that's true, then they need a new PR firm. Telling the world they switched it off sounds worse than telling them it failed. Complete incompetence in the worse possible way.

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    dShaperoMDM
    112
     2 years ago

    Two in one, baby.  

    • Supplier Aptiv says Uber was using its own self-driving system
    • Intel’s Mobileye software could have detected woman, CEO says
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    bellylaugh
    40 Rider
     2 years ago

    So Uber disabled the safety feature? Or Aptiv? Either way, why would you disable that?! Isn't that what you are testing?

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      eyekeyah
      95
       2 years ago

      Seriously. This would be hilarious is someone wasn't killed.

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    ant
    122 Rider
     2 years ago

    This is why self driving cars should be banned, forever. Ridiculous.

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      kias_revenge
      133 Rider
       2 years ago

      Any new technology will have growing pains. This one is particularly bad. But mark my words there will come a day when the idea of humans driving around with no technological assistance will seem absolutely ludicrous.

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      frank3
      53 Rider
       2 years ago

      Think about it, AVs have only killed 1 person so far. Cars driven by humans have killed hundreds or thousands. I think Avs are doing pretty well...

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        ant
        122 Rider
         2 years ago

        HAHAHA come on man. AVs are like .00001% of all the cars on the road. You can't compare numbers straight up like that.

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          TonyAlmeida
          1149 Rider
           2 years ago

          Human-driven cars?  Over 3000 people die every day globally in car accidents.  1.3M a year.  US alone - 37,000 deaths a year. 

          That's more than a 100 a day. More than 4 an hour.

          http://asirt.org/initiatives/informing-road-users/road-safety-facts/road-crash-statistics

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            StuffinMuffin
            843 Driver Rider
             2 years ago

            Yeah, but what ant is saying is that there are way fewer AVs than there are real cars.

            • There are 1.2 billion cars on the roads (source).  How many AVs are on the road today?  500?  and yes, they drive a lot more distance, say 5X a regular car.  So let's call it 2500 equivalent. 
            • 1.2B / 2500 = 480,000 times more mileage are driven by humans.
            • AVs killed one person within 2 years (let's say).  Humans killed 2.6M. (your #).  Hence 2.6M times more people are killed by cars driven by humans.

            Divide those two numbers and you get 5.4X.  That's how many more people are kiled by human drivers than AVs.  

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      chewy
      82
       2 years ago

      SKYNET

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    KillaBeez
    31
     2 years ago

    Oooooooohh, look at the drama.  Apriv vs. Uber!  Throat cutting has begun.  Go Aptiv!  Good luck selling your technology to anyone else!

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    bombazine
    79
     2 years ago

    I smell a criminal lawsuit...