How is it on pool Uber makes more than Driver? Just had a trip 2 pools my t ...

There is a lot of bad information in these comments. I decided I would look at all of my trips since

June 4, 2018. I should say I work the Philadelphia area.

1. I am getting less pool trips than I once did. Why?

2. I did make 15 pool trips since June 4th. The results will shock you.

3. I was in the same camp as the rest of you, until I did my research.

4. I totaled up what I was paid, what the riders paid, and what Uber received.

5. I was paid $177.97.

6. The riders paid $190.55

7. Uber was paid $6.26.

On five of the pool trips, Uber made a negative amount. (They subsidize). What the hell is Uber doing?

I was paid 93% of what the riders paid. I wish that were true of my UberX rides.

I would be interested in what others find in areas other than Philadelphia. Please do not speculate, get actual figures from the Uber partner website, and add them up in a spreadsheet.

I spent an hour and a half putting this together. I hope you like it.

Pools are for fools.  DON'T DO IT.

Not only does pool not pay well, but for quest bonuses and for "surges" they all count as ONE fare, the passengers will destroy your rating if they don't like other riders, and the more pool rides you take the more that Uber will send you.  If you take pools, Uber will send most of them to you and send the X rides to the drivers that refuse to take them.

If you decline or time out all pool pings, the number you receive will drop to almost none after a few days.  I quit taking pools after it dropped my rating from 4.96 to 4.92 in a month.  Now I can accept all but bad rating passengers and still keep my accept rate at 80% or more.  

This occurs if there are two or more riders in the pool and the rides are SHORT.

Assuming  the ride was an UberX and it was short. In Philadelphia the driver earns $3.75.

Now take the exact same ride with three pool riders. Uber charges each one of them a $2 booking fee. These booking fees (plus any other fees) are subtracted from what the riders pay before allocating the pay to the driver.

The result is the driver may earn something close to $3.75 but Uber gets at little more than $6.

The good thing is SOMETIMES Uber subsidizes the rides and the driver makes out.

Ooooh, it's happening.  We all suspected this to happen when it was introduced, and last year's 180 days initiative is now bringing this to light.

With UberPool, Uber makes out like a bandit, because there are multiple rider parties taking and sharing the ride.   Uber collects 2x the amount of fare less a small discount, and the drivers are still paid for duration and distance, i.e. the same plus a bit more because they are driving longer to make up multiple stops.

Let's say from an airport to the train station, it's $10 for UberX riders and the driver gets paid $5.  Then they came up with UberPool and started offering this same trip for $9.00, a dollar discount for a minor inconvenience.  Now, let's imagine the driver picks up two groups of riders.  They both pay $9 x 2 for a total of $18.  The driver still gets $5 plus a tiny bit for a longer trip to pick up the two passengers, so, let's say $6.

Gasp!  Uber ade $12 and the driver made $6. Pretty much all of the efficiency created and the profit associated with it went straight to Uber's pocket.

I originally posted this because of 2 trips that Uber made more than I did. Never had that happen. I was driving Saturday night and declined a few pool trips. As I was driving driving a passenger a request came up. Since i had a passenger didnt want to take my eyes off the road to see the request and with new app the print is smaller so I ended up accepting a pool. Of course it was a ride into Center City which is about 25 min 15.55 miles. Rider pd. $17.15  I got 18.46 Uber took -1.68 other .37. There was no surge in pick up or drop off and no tip. A fare like this pool is usually 12.00 for pool to this area. Then I took another pool trip 26 min. 10.5 miles plus a cancellation fee for 2nd rider I received 17.58. This would normally be a 8.00 to 10.00 ride for pool. On this trip rider payment 13.53 riders paid 13.43. There was an adjustment on Uber -7.60 Uber received -4.15. WTH? I am totally confused. If I figure out how to upload a screenshot I will post. ANY THOUGHTS? Afraid Uber will take back money at later date once they figure out their screw up because this cant be right. 

The reason this happens in Philadelphia, is all riders are charged a $2 booking charge plus other fees. Lets say you pick up three riders at three different stops (a pool). Those riders all get out within 15 minutes.

Uber will add three booking fees ($6) and any other fees they might charge the riders. All fees are added up and subtracted from what the riders paid. Now a 15 minute trip with only one rider doesn't pay much. 

A 15 minute trip with three riders you have to contend with at least $6 being subtracted from the rider payments. Yes Uber will definitely make more than you.

If you try and figure the fees that Uber charges, you'll go nuts.

In another post I took two months of payouts and used a spreadsheet to determine whether I should drive in South Jersey or Philadelphia. It wasn't close. Uber takes at minimum of 49% in South Jersey. 

In Philadephia, because I take a lot of pool rides, and Uber subsidizes most of them, I find that the percentage of what I get from the rider payments is much greater than in South Jersey.

I used Uber Pool for the first time this week, and I was shocked that there was no financial benefit for the driver - only for Uber?  The ride was substantially cheaper for me - like half price, and there were 3 x 1 passengers in the car.   So the money coming in was, I guess, roughly 50% greater than if there'd been a single person in the vehicle.   But the driver said he got paid the same in any event?

I love the idea of pooling - it's the future, so environmentally friendly, reduces congestion, saves fuel, cheaper for the consumers.   But it sucks that there's no incentive for the drivers.  Plus, if it really took off, it's reducing the number of pickups available for the drivers.  Ie before you had 3 rides going to the airport, and now only 1 driver might get that and 2 cars are not getting a fare.    So from the drivers point of view, it seems like all negatives.

I would hope that if Uber are making 50% more (or whatever) on these rides, they could at least share some of that with the driver, to make up for the downsides?

CESSPOOL STAY OUT 

Because it's a CESSPOOL filled with tightwads