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Uber Destination Mode Paying 30% Less

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PattyMelt
Driver
 Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

 Uber apparently has been taken over by Bernie Sanders. They don’t want us using destination mode anymore so instead of simply disabling it they are going to pay us 30% less while using it and re-distribute that money to the drivers that do not use the destination mode.

 How do drivers feel about this?  There is a way to submit feedback on the announcement they released in Chicago today. If you are against this idea you should probably go say something.

I feel like customers are going to get in my car now hoping to go to their far away destination and I’m going to have to say I’m sorry I have to deadhead all the way back or wait a long time to do it at 30% less pay which is charity work.

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    KyleBenhart
     34 minutes ago

    Tittle needs to be updated because they have increased the rate to 40%. What a fucking joke 

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    ChazKillington
     1 hour ago

    New world.  The days post-IPO. Public investors want drivers to suffer. It's all financials now.

    We've been in a honeymoon period all along. It just came crashing down.

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    KyleBenhart
     23 hours ago  (edited 23 hours ago)

    Funiest thing is alot of times uber won't even let me use Destination because lack of drivers in the area. Which is stupid because me going in 1 direction is better than nobody going in any. 


    Dont know what to do. I am seriously frustrated now by being skimed going home after a long day going wherever their system sent me. 

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      PattyMelt
      Driver
       20 hours ago  (edited 20 hours ago)

      Hi Kyle,


       I believe the Bernie Sanders redistribution strategy was only in a test phase for Chicago spanning March 14 through the 18th. I assume they wanted to do a little experiment before potentially implementing it more broadly.

      I have no doubt who specifically the company intended to target with this strategy. There are basically three types of drivers. Type A like me does this full-time usually six days a week. They could completely leave destination mode as is for me and it really wouldn’t harm anyone.

      Type B is your driver that has a  full-time office job and occasionally they probably supplement their morning and evening commute using destination mode.  These drivers could also probably keep destination mode as is without upsetting the universe. This type of driver also puts in some hours in the evening and definitely on the weekends.

       Type C was the intended target all along. This type of driver works a full-time job or perhaps takes care of a relative...

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      Hi Kyle,


       I believe the Bernie Sanders redistribution strategy was only in a test phase for Chicago spanning March 14 through the 18th. I assume they wanted to do a little experiment before potentially implementing it more broadly.

      I have no doubt who specifically the company intended to target with this strategy. There are basically three types of drivers. Type A like me does this full-time usually six days a week. They could completely leave destination mode as is for me and it really wouldn’t harm anyone.

      Type B is your driver that has a  full-time office job and occasionally they probably supplement their morning and evening commute using destination mode.  These drivers could also probably keep destination mode as is without upsetting the universe. This type of driver also puts in some hours in the evening and definitely on the weekends.

       Type C was the intended target all along. This type of driver works a full-time job or perhaps takes care of a relative that lives far away and they supplement their commute with destination mode but aside from that they pretty much never touch the thing except for big moneymaking holidays.

      In our Chicago market it is absolutely mind blowing how thousands of drivers literally just appear out of nowhere during surcharges or major holidays. They literally just magically spawn in the thousands.  I think a lot of these types are sitting watching Netflix keeping an eye on the surcharges in or around where they live. Remember a lot of these drivers literally don’t even need the money they just like getting out of the house. It sounds crazy but it’s true. 

       If the company wants to do something proactive about destination mode because of the type C drivers then hot Diggity dog make it so that your destination mode works this week but then Sunday night Monday morning when the week ends if you haven’t done at least XX amount of rides it is disabled entirely for the following week.  Should  they complete XX amount of rides during that blackout week it immediately unlocks they don’t even have to wait for the following week to start. 

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      LG-PA
      730 Driver
       20 hours ago

      Turn on Lyft destination filter instead. 

      I would keep uber on as regular (not Destination Filter) and just decline every Uber request coming my way

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    LG-PA
    730 Driver
     1 week ago  (edited 1 week ago)

    For fun I took one destination ride today 

    Got robbed by Uber

    Guess this  is the first and last Destination Filter ride I will ever do during the week on way to/from work. Good luck Uber on reducing  wait time for your passengers, especilly in suburbs during Rush Hour (idiots)

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      PattyMelt
      Driver
       4 days ago

      Thanks for the $6 LG + others. Go Eagles!

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      PattyMelt
      Driver
       1 week ago  (edited 1 week ago)

      Sorry bud :/

      Seems like Uber lately has been trying to get the seasoned drivers to hang up their spurs. Their target driving base is clearly the newbie that doesn’t know until tax time that he has been giving free rides all year or all quarter if he is filing properly.

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        LG-PA
        730 Driver
         1 week ago

        Yeah, with most drivers being part timers who actually scooped up passengers (which on any other day I would not picking up) while on way to/from work will just leave apps on to legitimately deduct the miles on taxes but will just not bother to actually pick the passengers up. On my 10 mile commute I frequently got matched up with the same passengers for short rides, which I did not mind doing even if it only put $4.00 in my pocket which covered gas for the day (occasionally these rides would ping me when I am still 10 minutes away from the passengers), meaning there are no drivers in the area. I can easily survive without the $4.00 / $8.00 per day as I did before I signed up. Because I feel being robbed I will no longer do these rides, which means these passengers will feel even longer wait times, and will start switching to Lyft. Once they switch there is rarely a turning back point. So not only will passengers get hit with longer wait times, they will actually leave Uber for good...

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        Yeah, with most drivers being part timers who actually scooped up passengers (which on any other day I would not picking up) while on way to/from work will just leave apps on to legitimately deduct the miles on taxes but will just not bother to actually pick the passengers up. On my 10 mile commute I frequently got matched up with the same passengers for short rides, which I did not mind doing even if it only put $4.00 in my pocket which covered gas for the day (occasionally these rides would ping me when I am still 10 minutes away from the passengers), meaning there are no drivers in the area. I can easily survive without the $4.00 / $8.00 per day as I did before I signed up. Because I feel being robbed I will no longer do these rides, which means these passengers will feel even longer wait times, and will start switching to Lyft. Once they switch there is rarely a turning back point. So not only will passengers get hit with longer wait times, they will actually leave Uber for good in some cases.

        Drivers, even new ones will quickly figure this out. though close to 70% of new drivers will quit within 6 months of signing up, And for new drivers that do stick around a bit longer the novelty quickly wears off.

        Taxes are not an issue as mileage expense pretty much covers it one for one.

        If/When Lyft follows in Uber's footsteps with this taxation of their Destination Filter rides, I will stop picking up their passengers also :)

        Whn I come out for a full day (like Sunday) I rarely use the filters but am sure some full time drivers who commute to/from population centers from rural areas relied on the filters a bit more than me.

        So dear divers: per Uber at least your first and last ride of the day will be taxed 30% - if you are taking advantage of the feature we built into the app for your convenience ---very nice :)


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      rodneytrop
       1 week ago

      Wow, that is ridiculous. They took ALL the wait time money.

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        LG-PA
        730 Driver
         1 week ago

        On this trip there was no wait time so probably the reason it did not show up.

        $1.67  destination reduction is what is going to cost Uber bad publicity, longer wait times for passengers and passengers switching away as drivers will just stop doing the destination trips and just ignore those requests since we are being robbed

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    DrJill
    Driver
     6 days ago

    I only use destination mode at the end of my day when I need to pick up my grand children after school then log off.  If this decreased pay hits here in Pittsburgh, I will be refusing a lot of riders.  Like I will show up and if they are going the wrong way, just cancel them and tell them why AND ask them to complain to Uber that drivers are being penalized for using destination mode and that they have to wait AGAIN for a ride.  Maybe if riders complain Uber will listen.

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      LG-PA
      730 Driver
       5 days ago

      I actually continue to set my destination filter on while on way to and from work (on both Uber and Lyft), but now when an Uber ride request comes in while on destination, I just let it expire and keep driving. When Lyft sends a request I will take it. This way the Uber platform thinks there are more drivers out there available to pick up passengers, but when the drivers do not actually pick up the passengers (on destination filter) creates longer wait times for passengers and they will start switching to Lyft. If more drivers will do that more passengers will switch and fantasy of decreasing Uber pax wait time will evaporate at Uber as it will have the opposite effect:)

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        KyleBenhart
         22 hours ago

        Not a bad idea... However i have found at some point they just stop sending you request if u refuse to accept. 


        I do admire your Bold initiative though. 


        On thing i have done to spite the system is accept Pool rides and refuse to pick then up (specifically out in the suburbs where i am from at 1 in the morning) no way i accept a reduced fair that i only end up making back if we find somebody going in your direction this late. Most od the time i find these pook rides to be short jerkers who can't afford the extra dollar. But cost me 1. 


        I refuse to cancel and make them get a cancel fee. Its petty but knowing i wasted their money the way they waste mine with their short cheap fair rides makes me happy. Btw. I have found that Pools never tip. How can they when they cant afford the extra dollar for their own full car. 



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          LG-PA
          730 Driver
           20 hours ago

          Not only do pools never tip, they are the cause of majority of low ratings we get. I do not do pools or shared rides. Occasionally on Lyft destination filter or Uber when no 30% taxations.

          When they stop sending requests I switch to regular Uber and continue to decline requests :)


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    LG-PA
    730 Driver
     1 week ago

    Got same notice in Philadelphia.

    They are basically saying, Ok we are going to rob drivers on at least two rides a day of 30%

    Sort of like the stupid Soda tax they implemented here, to tax sodas more. You do not just pick a certain industry and tax them more.

    Uber's justification is that riders are waiting longer due to increased use of filters, but I think this will now only increase wait times, since I for example will just refuse to pick up any passengers on the Destination Filter while going to/from work. Or I may show up at passenger, tell him of the robbery, cancel the ride and ask them to re-request with me sitting there.

    Many part time drivers who during the week use the filter to pick up passengers while heading to and from work will now simply not pick up the UBER passengers. I often get matched up with the same passengers even sometimes taking them to work and from on the same day using the filter. As a driver I will still have my both apps on and just ignore Uber destina...

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    Got same notice in Philadelphia.

    They are basically saying, Ok we are going to rob drivers on at least two rides a day of 30%

    Sort of like the stupid Soda tax they implemented here, to tax sodas more. You do not just pick a certain industry and tax them more.

    Uber's justification is that riders are waiting longer due to increased use of filters, but I think this will now only increase wait times, since I for example will just refuse to pick up any passengers on the Destination Filter while going to/from work. Or I may show up at passenger, tell him of the robbery, cancel the ride and ask them to re-request with me sitting there.

    Many part time drivers who during the week use the filter to pick up passengers while heading to and from work will now simply not pick up the UBER passengers. I often get matched up with the same passengers even sometimes taking them to work and from on the same day using the filter. As a driver I will still have my both apps on and just ignore Uber destination filter requests, will still be able to write off my miles. So we started with two filters, went to 6, then back to two and not to garbage. I am sure Lyft will follow Uber in this idiotic decision, but angering drivers prior to IPO for Uber was probably not the smartest thing.

    If I was Uber I would retract this after a week and to save Face would say that it did not work. Lyft should capitalize on this decision and not implement such cut to Destination Filters

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    PattyMelt
    Driver
     1 week ago

     I don’t see how something that can only be used twice a day is being overused. Sometimes Uber sends me 80 miles away from my home usually not one long trip but multiple trips.  It is a pretty far stretch to the far north suburbs of Chicago. I already eat those dead miles typically coming back but at least with destination mode there is a small chance I could get a ride. Now it will be a charity ride apparently after Bernie takes his 30%.

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      KyleBenhart
       1 day ago

      Exactly the same. Crystal lake area for me. Been draged all the way to rockford and Joliett b4. Chicago as well (but there is good money there) now i cant even get paid reasonably to get home when they can send me wherever they want. This may be my breaking point. 

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      RadarRider
      Driver
       4 days ago

      This is stupid to mention Bernie.  He only wants to tax those who earn a quarter Million and more … more.  Not people who barely make enough to pay taxes.

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        PattyMelt
        Driver
         3 days ago

        Redistribution of wealth is stupid. I have $6 that someone else worked for last week.  I am perfectly capable of going out and earning my own $6 but here we are.

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    RadarRider
    Driver
     4 days ago

    Simple... I will not use destination mode, but rather turn off Uber and eat the cost of a 2 hour dead leg.   Or I will use Lyft's Destination mode.   

    End result:  Uber has less drivers.  Some other driver will get the ride that I would have taken... and there will be one less driver to take the other rides... Furthermore, if that ride takes the rider 80 miles away: then there will be one less driver in that area for HOURS... where If I had taken the ride home... that rider would have remained in his area to handle jobs there.

    I am not going to chance getting a ride an hour in the wrong direction at midnight when I am already 2 hours from home and have been working for 10 hours.   

    I also think that if they remove DM mode... many drivers may just tell pax that they cannot do rides that long because of the dead leg and Uber's unscrupulous business methods.  Gas is going up too.

    If Uber would just allow DM filters to get home... or when over...

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    Simple... I will not use destination mode, but rather turn off Uber and eat the cost of a 2 hour dead leg.   Or I will use Lyft's Destination mode.   

    End result:  Uber has less drivers.  Some other driver will get the ride that I would have taken... and there will be one less driver to take the other rides... Furthermore, if that ride takes the rider 80 miles away: then there will be one less driver in that area for HOURS... where If I had taken the ride home... that rider would have remained in his area to handle jobs there.

    I am not going to chance getting a ride an hour in the wrong direction at midnight when I am already 2 hours from home and have been working for 10 hours.   

    I also think that if they remove DM mode... many drivers may just tell pax that they cannot do rides that long because of the dead leg and Uber's unscrupulous business methods.  Gas is going up too.

    If Uber would just allow DM filters to get home... or when over an hour from home or town or the destination...  rather than locally just trying to get back to the airport... I mean... DM only works twice a day for about 20 min... WTF?

    The Uber Kool-Aid is tasting more like Vinegar.







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      LG-PA
      730 Driver
       3 days ago

      I now turn on DF at all times especially when I have no intention of giving an Uber ride, set it to far away popular place in town, and let the requests come in and expire on my screen, if several drivers will do that - uber passenegrs will end up waiting a lot longer for a real driver and hopefully will switch to Lyft or Uber will take this idiotic experiment down. Sorry riders, though you see 8 available cars on the screen - the actual driver who will be picking you up may just end up coming form 20 minutes away. Express your concerns on longer wait times to Uber, and mention that drivers are complaining of the new pay cut :)

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        RadarRider
        Driver
         11 hours ago

        You idiot.   What is that going to do?   That is going to give them data that DM mode makes the customers on average wait LONGER for rides.  It is going to give them data to support ELIMINATING DM MODE.   Way to cut your nose off to spite your face and ALL OF US.

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          LG-PA
          730 Driver
           9 hours ago

          Look, loser. Uber  has all the data they need. That is what they cited to begin with. So you can take your data and deposit it into the same place you take the shaft from Uber. It is low rated drivers like you who keep eating everything Uber serves you and stay quiet. That is really the data their after? First 30% then 50%.... keep  guarding you data and hiding behind you keyboard, conspiracy theorist.


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            RadarRider
            Driver
             6 hours ago

            Low rated?  I may not be a 5 but I am just a few points away from it.  I did not realize you were an expert on my life... Continue while I take notes....  mmm no...  Wrong, wrong... wrong wrong.    In order for you to insult me, I would have to value your opinion.  Nice try though.

            If they are collecting data as they said, and if everyone did like you... all it would do is show negative results for DM.   I do OK, I play the game within the rules and try not to be an ass, or jaded, or unethical... despite how we may be treated.  I also try not to give bad advice that newbies will think is good.   Keep declining/missing rides while online.  Eventually you will be deactivated.

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              LG-PA
              730 Driver
               5 hours ago

              Next time before claiming to be an expert on a public forum, but instead making a fool out of your self by such statement as:

              "Keep declining/missing rides while online.  Eventually you will be deactivated." 

              I suggest you familiarize yourself with Uber's and Lyft's Terms of service:


               LYFT: Acceptance rate
              Your acceptance rate is the percent of ride requests you accept and complete.
              We use acceptance rates to determine driver eligibility for certain incentives and help keep passenger wait times short.
              When giving Lyft rides, you have the right to accept or ignore any ride request.
              You're always free to decline ride requests you don't want, but declined requests will still count toward your total ride requests when we calculate your acceptance rate.

              UBER: What are acceptance rates?
              Your acceptance rate is the number of ride requests you've accepted divided by the total number of ride requests you've received while online. Your acceptance rate i...

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              Next time before claiming to be an expert on a public forum, but instead making a fool out of your self by such statement as:

              "Keep declining/missing rides while online.  Eventually you will be deactivated." 

              I suggest you familiarize yourself with Uber's and Lyft's Terms of service:


               LYFT: Acceptance rate
              Your acceptance rate is the percent of ride requests you accept and complete.
              We use acceptance rates to determine driver eligibility for certain incentives and help keep passenger wait times short.
              When giving Lyft rides, you have the right to accept or ignore any ride request.
              You're always free to decline ride requests you don't want, but declined requests will still count toward your total ride requests when we calculate your acceptance rate.

              UBER: What are acceptance rates?
              Your acceptance rate is the number of ride requests you've accepted divided by the total number of ride requests you've received while online. Your acceptance rate is no longer displayed in the Uber app.
              While it is important to accept trips when you are able, we no longer display your acceptance rate because it does not have an affect on your ability to earn promotions.


              What this means, is no driver will be deactivated for missed ride requests. For the record, my acceptance rate is barely 3% for the past year, beacuse unlike ethical charity worker drivers, who chase every ping, I screen the rides I want to make and only do the ones that make sense to me, (nothing unethical here) - work smarter not harder. See, still within the rules.

              Anyway, that is the difference between a driver who just does OK and a driver who makes out good.

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                RadarRider
                Driver
                 2 hours ago  (edited 2 hours ago)

                Interesting.   I never claimed to be an expert.   When I started, there had been several people that were deactivated supposedly for low acceptance rates.  When I read the agreement, it was my understanding that a low acceptance rate could lead to deactivation... or so I thought.

                Maybe things have changed.  (They do tend to change things don't they.)

                However, the statement:

                "we no longer display your acceptance rate because it does not have an affect on your ability to earn promotions."

                Does not mention anything about being deactivated, but only about your ability to earn promotions.

                So, I dug up the Driver deactivation policy:  

                "WHY DRIVERS CAN LOSE ACCESS TO UBER - US ONLY...

                Acceptance Rates

                High acceptance rates are a critical part of reliable, high-quality service, but not accepting trip requests does not lead to permanent loss of your account.

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                Interesting.   I never claimed to be an expert.   When I started, there had been several people that were deactivated supposedly for low acceptance rates.  When I read the agreement, it was my understanding that a low acceptance rate could lead to deactivation... or so I thought.

                Maybe things have changed.  (They do tend to change things don't they.)

                However, the statement:

                "we no longer display your acceptance rate because it does not have an affect on your ability to earn promotions."

                Does not mention anything about being deactivated, but only about your ability to earn promotions.

                So, I dug up the Driver deactivation policy:  

                "WHY DRIVERS CAN LOSE ACCESS TO UBER - US ONLY...

                Acceptance Rates

                High acceptance rates are a critical part of reliable, high-quality service, but not accepting trip requests does not lead to permanent loss of your account.

                Consistently accepting trip requests helps maximize earnings for drivers and keeps the system running smoothly. We know that sometimes things come up that prevent you from accepting every trip request, or you may want to take a break. But not accepting trip requests causes delays and degrades the reliability of the system. If you don’t want to accept trips, just log off. 

                If you consistently decline trip requests, we will assume you do not want to accept more trips and you may be logged out of the app. [3]"

                So, It seems as though you are correct.  it will not lead to deactivation, but it does no good for the system... however... again... seeing how we are being treated and often cheated... I get it.

                I am also going to add this:  

                "Cancellation Rate

                A driver cancellation is when you accept a trip request and then cancel the trip. Cancellations create a poor rider experience and negatively affect other drivers. We understand that there may be times when something comes up and you have to cancel an accepted trip. But minimizing cancellations is critical for the reliability of the system.

                How is my cancellation rate calculated? Your cancellation rate is based on the number of trips canceled out of the total number of trips you accept. (For example, if you’ve accepted 100 trips and 4 of them are canceled, your cancellation rate would be 4%.) High-quality drivers typically have a cancellation rate lower than 5%.

                What leads to you losing access to your account? Each city has a maximum cancellation rate, based on the average cancellation rate of drivers in that area. We will alert you multiple times if your cancellation rate is much higher or if you are consistently canceling more often than other drivers in your city, after which you may be logged out of the app. If your cancellation rate continues to exceed the maximum limit, you may lose access to your account."

                   ( ref:  https://www.uber.com/legal/community-guidelines/us-en/?state=oQun93rT7qNWcaN1NlRbGLJFLqwPTnxL5J-vAdKZNGg%3D&_csid=GLVlayzVKCeH_8hQd0dYTA#_ )
                  

                We were not talking about cancellation rates, kind of a non-sequitur… but you can get deactivated for it.


                I stand corrected.  Thank you.


                Also, we do not get Uber-Pro here, but apparently they are not saying "Acceptance rate" will affect it.



                I am curious about something. How do you know which 97% of the rides to not accept?   

                There have been many rides I did not want to accept.  Sometimes I will not accept a 20 minute ride to a pickup.  sometimes I get these 1 block from the airport lot with almost no one in it.  (no brainer.)

                Others I accepted and wound up with $25 and up fares.








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        jutre
        113 Driver
         2 days ago

        LOL, this is good. Way to fight back haha

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    DrJill
    Driver
     5 days ago

    Does anyone know where to check in the Uber app to learn if my city is part of the 30% cut for destination mode?  I do need to use destination mode so that I am not taken in the wrong direction as I need to pick up grand children at a specific time.  I have not found any notifications in app to say so for Pittsburgh, PA.  Anyone know how to check if my city is affected?????

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      PattyMelt
      Driver
       4 days ago

      Simply go into destination mode to check. They warn you first that you are entering charity mode.

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      LG-PA
      730 Driver
       3 days ago

      Therideshareguy had an article on this last night listing these markets: I bet the list of actual cities with 30% cut is actually longer, you drive in Pgh and seeing it too, so add all of PA to the list? :)

      30% cut
      Charlotte
      Chicago
      Raleigh
      Philadelphia

      Completely eliminated
      NY
      Dallas

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        DrJill
        Driver
         3 days ago

        Not seeing the destination rip off in Pittsburgh, PA yet.  Hope I do not as I can not switch over to Lyft due to a law suit regarding the ADA of 1990  -- So to work I need to have destination for the end of the day so that  I can pick up the grandchildren from school on time.

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    breakingbread
    191 Rider Driver
     1 week ago

    What?! I haven't heard this news, is it just in Chicago? This is so ridiculous!! Complete BS (no coincidence, these are Bernie's initials, lol)


    Do you have a notice of this you can share?

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    KyleBenhart
     1 day ago  (edited 23 hours ago)

    Just hit me here in Chicago.... Total BS. 

    In a job where i am not able to chose where i work. Get draged all over the chicagoland area.  Now i cant even use destination mode to get me home from these random places i end up. Being an hour and a half outside the city. And getting draged in constantly. That drice back home was alot of my income. Especially late on friday and Saturday. 


    I do not know how they can rationalize this policy when they already limit destination mode. I would 100% understand if maybe u used it more than 1 or 2 times then to do this. But most of us are using it to get home. 


    I hate to admit it. But i think this will drive off drivers. Not being able to get yourself home without being scamed out od 30% (when they already are taking close to 40% of the fair. Just makes no sense. 


    Btw just did the math they took well over 30% 


    14.14 + 8.93 = 23.07 

    23.07 x .3 = 6.92 


    Basically an extra 2 bucks 


    Closer to .39 % 






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    Just hit me here in Chicago.... Total BS. 

    In a job where i am not able to chose where i work. Get draged all over the chicagoland area.  Now i cant even use destination mode to get me home from these random places i end up. Being an hour and a half outside the city. And getting draged in constantly. That drice back home was alot of my income. Especially late on friday and Saturday. 


    I do not know how they can rationalize this policy when they already limit destination mode. I would 100% understand if maybe u used it more than 1 or 2 times then to do this. But most of us are using it to get home. 


    I hate to admit it. But i think this will drive off drivers. Not being able to get yourself home without being scamed out od 30% (when they already are taking close to 40% of the fair. Just makes no sense. 


    Btw just did the math they took well over 30% 


    14.14 + 8.93 = 23.07 

    23.07 x .3 = 6.92 


    Basically an extra 2 bucks 


    Closer to .39 % 






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    HerbMercedez
     1 week ago

    The left is taking over.  It’s all socialism from this point. 

    Public Uber will be full of idealistic BS and this is just one example.  It’s the mentality of making everyone happy and majoring failing. 

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      RadarRider
      Driver
       3 days ago

      I think you guys are hilarious... because it is Big business sucking from us little guys, not the left liberalism.  It is big right wing republican bubbles that are clueless as to the plight of the average Joe/Uber driver and so far removed... that obviously they don't give a crap and are shooting themselves in the foot.  DM removal is not going to save or help pick up times.   If you are 2 hrs from home and need/want  to get back... if someone local at your current location gets the ride that would have taken you home instead... they will be removed from that location for 4 hours minimum.  You are going to turn off Uber and dead leg it home.    Now instead of what Uber wants... they are short that one local driver that could have been there for local rides and reduced some wait times.  

      When I waited tables, we always had to take some crappy tables to get the good ones.   Same thing with rides, but some are cherry picking too much... ...

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      I think you guys are hilarious... because it is Big business sucking from us little guys, not the left liberalism.  It is big right wing republican bubbles that are clueless as to the plight of the average Joe/Uber driver and so far removed... that obviously they don't give a crap and are shooting themselves in the foot.  DM removal is not going to save or help pick up times.   If you are 2 hrs from home and need/want  to get back... if someone local at your current location gets the ride that would have taken you home instead... they will be removed from that location for 4 hours minimum.  You are going to turn off Uber and dead leg it home.    Now instead of what Uber wants... they are short that one local driver that could have been there for local rides and reduced some wait times.  

      When I waited tables, we always had to take some crappy tables to get the good ones.   Same thing with rides, but some are cherry picking too much... which puts off the manure to other drivers who accept anything.   What Uber needs to do:

      1) Give incentives to drive 20 minutes to pick up a fare.   Especially if it is a $4 fare.  (I probably had an hour and 20 min of rides to pick ups in 2 hours this morning.  It sucks.)   Local drivers get wise to repetitive 40 minute rides for $4.  Of course they are going to decline.   (Kind of like Uber Eats)

      2) Keep the DM with two a day...  This is the bare minimum that they need for DM for some of us.

      •  At least have one for taking care of business... going to work, daycare, lunch...  get to a location.
      • and one or more for returning home from a long distance ride  1hr/60 min or more away from home to one's home or city...  ESPECIALLY AFTER WORKING 10 HOURS.   


      3) Monitor acceptance rates.  Reward people with higher acceptance rates.   


        In fact, maybe a compromise is to give people with a maintained acceptance rate 2 DM's a day.


      I also have to ask:  Why are they considering letting people know where the rides go before accepting them, but then offering incentives to never decline a ride?  (Isn't that sort of what UberPro does?)


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