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Can a parent order Uber or Lyft for a teenager? My kids?

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JessMin99
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 Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Is that legit?   or better yet, legal?  I am not breaking the terms of using the Uber account as I am the one with the account and credite card.  I have three children and I'd love to utilize Uber or Lyft.  Safe too.

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    Ghollingsworth
    36 Rider
     5 months ago

    That's a legal minefield! Too much exposure.

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    msmommypants
    12
     7 months ago  (edited 7 months ago)

    It seems like accepting riders 15 or at least 16+ would be a good compromise.  At this age, they are actually either learning to or already driving themselves and eligible for an ID card to prove their age.  It's probably safer than them driving themselves at this point (for them and those of us on the road!).  I know many high-school kids who take public transit alone, so it would seem reasonable that they could handle a ride-sharing app.  And, as someone pointed out, you can track their route and there is no cash involved, possible advantages over public transit.

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      ThomBrady
      122
       5 months ago

      While I agree with the logic, the 18 is a magic number when discussing law and liability. Companies don't care if the riders are mature enough or too stupid to ride as long as insurance covers the potential mess and they are protected against legal matters.

      I mean, there are plenty of stupid people who are also clueless at the age of 18+.

      Of course, the law has set the benchmark at 18 when considering the maturity, right? We as a society decided that it's 18 when a person is mature enough, can make their own decisoins, etc. 

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      ShannaKZ
      26
       7 months ago

      I can get on board with this. I think we should petition it. Let's just say that minors can take it if they have a driver's license. or keep it simple and make it 16, like it is in most states.

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    ShawnGalik
    11
     6 months ago

    My opinion is that a child is in a car alone (or with other children) with a stanger.  That stranger can take them anywhere and do anyting. I personally wouldn't have put my child alone on a plane either, for the surrounded by strangers reason, and you just never know who is there and what the intentions are.  It doesn't matter legal or no, I wouldn't do it because yes, I am THAT mom.  I know people that do it, I don't like it, but I have to remember it isn't my child, and hope that nothing bad happens.

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      ChrisWeston
      90 Rider
       5 months ago

      Completely sound answer. 

      Your post is refreshing in midst of everyone only focusing on law, liability, insurance, etc. We should be focusing on the children and their safety first and whatever our gut tells us is what we should do.

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    marciabrick
    25
     8 months ago

    So interesting that a 14 year old can fly alone across the US, sit on the exit row and operate the door in an emergency. But cannot properly “open an account” and ride an Uber.

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      cContino77
      145
       8 months ago

      Hahaha.  Good call.  I feel like this is an area where Uber can really benefit the society.  Safe rides for children.  Plus, these kids can ride taxis, so the world no longer makes sense.

      BTW, I will call you out that a 14 year old cannot sit in the exit row.  They have to be 15.  :)

      https://www.southwest.com/html/customer-service/inflight-experience/emergency-exit.html

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      ChrisWeston
      90 Rider
       5 months ago

      I did't know a 14 year old can ride a plane together.  

      Actually, I take it back when I was like 8, I remember my parents putting me on a plane to go visit my grandparents. They came all the way to the gate and got picked up at the gate. Those were different times when people without tickets could walk up to the gate, but I digress

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      eshughes77
      113
       8 months ago

      Yeah, everyone keeps throwing out the word, "liability," like kids didn't exist before. There are plenty of services that handle sand care for kids. Daycare, airlines, etc. 

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    DDominico69
    158 Driver
     1 year ago

    This is indeed a rampant problem.  I have seen little kids, not even teenagers, who request a ride.  I show up and there they are. Ready to go wherever.  Some look like 8 or 9.  (third grade?)  I often tell them no and cancel.  I actually do put it as the reason for why I am cancelling.

    I get it.  With taxis you can. (I think.)   I get it.  It seems safe as there's no cash involved and you can track their routes.  ...but it puts the driver in a very awkward spot.

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      Bristol83
      6 Rider Driver
       3 months ago

      I know it can be hard, but firmly tell them that you cannot accept anyone under the age of 18. You could be deactivated.


      People used to tell their kids not to talk to strangers but now they want their kids to get into car of a stranger?

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      jeffrey1987
      64 Driver
       1 year ago

      Wow, this has never happened to me. I don't even know what I would do if it did. I mean I wouldn't want to get in trouble for transporting a minor but at this point I would feel responsible for the kid! I don't know if I could jsut leave them without a ride!

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        LG-PA
        796 Driver
         8 months ago

        SO if you do pick up the kid and transport him/her somewhere, then drop them off - how can you be sure you dropped them off somewhere safe? exactly - this is why you do not pick up kids, they may be safer where they are. and of course it is not allowed to transport minors without parents

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        g2jtx7
        3
         3 months ago

        Lmao  Uber & Lyft policy riders under 18 must be accompanied by someone over 18. I'm an Uber & Lyft driver I'll accept everyone of the stupid parents ride requests they should read the terms for riders, so when their kid can't provide id showing they're 18 I'll get the cancellation fee every time. 😀

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    AndreasClarke
    7
     6 months ago

    Yes but what do Uber and Lyft's TOA's FOR DRIVERS say about picking up minors? Can anyone say LOOPHOLE?!?! Is not interesting that most articles focusing on this issue seem to ONLY view it feom the RIDERS perspective and NOT the driver? 

    If it's not located in our TOA's then why do we need to be bound to what is not addressed there. I agree that perhaps Uber/Lyft find it redundant but still if a driver signs up to be a driver, why would they read the riders TOA's also? Some could be thinking.

    Either way, this needs to be made more clear and more protocols need to be put in place so that those who continue to disobey are held appropriately accountable per the agreement they entered into even when and if they did not TAKE THE TIME OUT to THOROUGHLY read through and comprhend them.

    IJS

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      LG-PA
      796 Driver
       6 months ago

      What is Uber’s and Lyft’s policy on service animals? Oh I remember, because I get bombarded with these notifications monthly to ensure we transport the emotional support poodles so they do not get sued. But minors, nah let’s put drivers at risk as all we (rideshare companies want is more riders)

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    momof4
    6964 Rider Driver
     3 months ago

    Teens have fake ID's i cant always tell the difference. Some bars use machines because you cant always tell. This should be Ubers responsibility. They dont care they win if driver takes minor and they lose nothing if driver gets in accident. They just say we told you not to take minors. Just like the whole car safety seat issue. Uber and Lyft mention it in a few sentences. Hell they even pay cancel fee and dont dont charge it to rider. They eat the cost. Maybe if they start charging 10.00 for 1st offense, 20.00 and so on this would stop. They just dont care. If kid goes flying through windshield its the drivers problem, if minor rides and accuses driver of sexual misconduct they deactivate driver. Just another example of how they dont cars about drivers.

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      Poutage
      7
       2 months ago

      If the kid uses a fake ID, he or she is breaking the law, and the driver cannot possibly be liable. The driver did what he or she had to do. Reasonable attempts were made.

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    TXcrude
    1 Rider
     1 month ago

    My 12 year old daughter missed her bus yesterday and neither my wife nor I could leave work so I hailed an Uber and he took her to school a few miles away. He told her she was the fourth student that morning and that his kids go to the same school.

    I don’t plan on making this a habit but it sure helps when you are in a bind.

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      KimStigs
      46
       1 month ago

      All nay sayers don’t have kids. Eff them. 

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      MaryIST
       1 month ago

      I’m gonna start a new thread on this. How rampant is this where the parents just use Uber for their kids knowingly or unknowingly? And whether drivers really enforce it. 

      Trust me, I’m in the camp of letting my kids take Uber. My kids have taken taxis themselves. And I’d say why not Uber. 

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        TXcrude
        1 Rider
         1 month ago

        what is the link to the new thread?


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        TXcrude
        1 Rider
         1 month ago

        what is the link to the new thread?

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    Bristol83
    6 Rider Driver
     3 months ago

    Never take anyone who looks to be under the age of 18. As a Lyft driver, I've refused to take unaccompanied minors. Be careful if you drive on weekday mornings and mid-afternoons.

    There's too much liability. The parents, not rideshare drivers, are responsible for getting their kids to and from school.

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      CWalcutt75
      222 Driver
       1 month ago

      So that’s a great question. What do I do if I ask but  they don’t have an ID?

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      MickDorsey
      56 Driver
       3 months ago

      Carding people sucks and half the time, and especially when they’re suspect, they don’t have an ID. Or at least they claim they don’t. 

      I feel like this isn’t my responsibility, but I do understand your point about protecting myself from liability.

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    KathyZK
    4
     5 months ago  (edited 5 months ago)

    A person your minor meets online could order a car sent to your minor .  The minor would then be picked up and driven to a likely dangerous adult.  Minors should not be allowed to ride without an adult.

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      KirstenGH
      55
       1 month ago

      Oh, gosh, that’s scary. Another thing to worry and stay up thinking about. Thanks!!  Lol

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    lilly
    967 Rider Guru
     11 months ago

    There are specific rideshare services that cater to children and teens.

    Here is a list.

    Rideshare Services for Children

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    MyOrlandoCab
    18 Driver Driver Rider
     1 year ago

    Anybody who orders an Uber, it's clearly implying that they are 18 and over by accepting the terms of Use of the app. All drivers should assume that they are indeed 18 unless told otherwise. They rider lied, not the driver, it should not be the drivers responsibilty to vet rider. Additionally, the minor rider/ parent it's putting themselves at risk because any accidents they will not be covered.

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      bBerman81
      258 Rider
       8 months ago

      I agree.  If Uber vetted the customers, drivers shouldn't have to vet them out again.  We aren't asking for people's licenses and IDs.  

      The momente the rider breaks the Uber rules, the liability has now shifted from Uber/Driver to the Passenger.  Simple.

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        tsaunaz
        Rider Driver
         2 months ago

        Nope, in the event of an accident, if the driver is not following the TOS, who do you think is now responsible for damages?  Uber or Lyft?  Nope, you  both weren't following the TOS.  Your insurance?  In most cases, they will argue no and likely win.  Then who's responsible?

        Never worth it, same as breaking car seat laws, just don't do it.

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    CaptainOlimar
    185
     11 months ago

    Stop spoiling the kids.  Let them order the Uber themselves.

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      g2jtx7
      3
       3 months ago

      Lmao  Uber & Lyft policy riders under 18 must be accompanied by someone over 18. I'm an Uber & Lyft driver I'll accept everyone of the stupid parents ride requests they should read the terms for riders, so when their kid can't provide id showing they're 18 I'll get the cancellation fee every time. 😀

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      BGraft89
      609 Rider Driver
       11 months ago

      They can't.  have to be 18 to use Uber.

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        CaptainOlimar
        185
         11 months ago

        Sorry. I was trying to make a joke.  yes,  i know that.

        and it doesnt' look like uber tries too hard to stop people from doing it. I mean, all they need is a parents' credit card number.

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          BGraft89
          609 Rider Driver
           11 months ago

          ain't that the truth.

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    Bigfrank
    333 Driver Driver Rider
     11 months ago

    We dont want want your kids and we are not baby sitters. Take responsibity and drive them yourself.

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      BGraft89
      609 Rider Driver
       11 months ago

      I'd be happy to babysit if the the surge is pegged at 2.5x.  UberKIDS anyone?

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        Bigfrank
        333 Driver Driver Rider
         11 months ago

        If the surge was 100x with a steak dinner , I still will not take children without their parent. 

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          BGraft89
          609 Rider Driver
           11 months ago

          Everyone has his price. It sounds like your is 101x surge and TWO steak dinners. LOL. 

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    ippei
    1196 Driver Rider Guru
     1 year ago

    There are also rideshare for kids who do transport children.   Here's a list.  Do you have one in your city?

    https://ride.guru/content/newsroom/rideshare-services-for-children

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    VinnyArdigliano
    4
     8 months ago

    Uber is to dangerous.  A legally blind person could qualify to drive for uber.  Absolutely ridiculous!!!

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      AsStibelDude
      593 Driver
       5 months ago

      Vinny, you a driver or a rider?

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      ChazKillington
      25
       8 months ago

      Wow.  You are so right.  I didn't really think about this. Uber doesn't check this as part of the background check.  

      Hey, wait a minute though.  Even if you are legally blinde, your vision can still be corrected, right?  As long as they have driver's license, maybe you are cool?

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      MattC117
      11 Rider
       4 months ago

      Not every Uber driver is dangerous. Many 16/17 yr olds need to get to and from their jobs and school. I don't see the problem with giving teenagers rides. Giving kids under 16 can be an issue and drivers shouldnt be giving them rides. 

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    litzyisawsome86
    5
     11 months ago

    I mean as a 14 year old who isn't privileged enough to have someone constantly give me a ride because the only parent I have to my availability is at work all day, being able to get an uber ride would be rather convenient. 7 year olds getting rides without an adult may sound like a burden, but come on, 13+ getting rides should be a thing. It's not babysitting at all.

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      tsaunaz
      Rider Driver
       2 months ago

      Honestly, that entitled attitude is another reason you aren't getting in my car.  Using any ride-sharing service means you are entering a legally binding contract.  You can't do that till 18.

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      g2jtx7
      3
       3 months ago

      Lmao  Uber & Lyft policy riders under 18 must be accompanied by someone over 18. I'm an Uber & Lyft driver I'll accept everyone of the stupid parents ride requests they should read the terms for riders, so when their kid can't provide id showing they're 18 I'll get the cancellation fee every time. 😀

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      RPaulson
      547 Driver
       10 months ago

      Well, taxis allowed kids and I feel the app-equipped Uber and Lyft are safer in nature for minors.  Parents can pay for them, keep track of their usage pattern, see the exact locations through GPS, etc. etc.  I am all for kids taking rideshares around.

      The economics make sense as well.  Parents driving to a sport practice and waiting for 90 minutes and driving back.  That is a lot of time.  and time is money. 

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        g2jtx7
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         3 months ago

        Lmao 😭 Uber & Lyft policy riders under 18 must be accompanied by someone over 18. I'm an Uber & Lyft driver I'll accept everyone of the stupid parents ride requests they should read the terms for riders, so when their kid can't provide id showing they're 18 I'll get the cancellation fee every time. 😀

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    mobilemark
    19 Rider
     1 year ago

    Another thing a minor could say s/he was molested tnt rubber driver and image what would happen to driver

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      DimSumUng
      121
       1 year ago

      Makes me shudder.  Totally not worth it.  

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        chawes
        664 Rider Guru
         1 year ago

        "DimSumUng" LOL

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      CWalcutt75
      222 Driver
       8 months ago

      Webcam. At all times.  

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      tabby
      172 Rider
       1 year ago

      I hate that we live in a world where a false accusation like this could actually ruin someone, but.... yeah.

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      ha
      19 Rider
       1 year ago

      Couldn't anyone technically claim they were molested?

      Dashboard cameras are key!!

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        ShamedJames
        92
         1 year ago

        I thought molested primarily refers to children  Harassed or sexually assaulted for adults.  I think.

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    careerblip
    Rider Driver
     2 months ago

    As a driver I always get suspicious if the pickup is a minor or a third party, and I will call the requester for clarification, which, certainly in the case of a minor, I will cancel.
    Also drivers never ever get a tip from such rides - reason alone to cancel.

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      MickDorsey
      56 Driver
       1 month ago

      But the tip is from the requestor and an adult. Not from the minor. I wonder if it’s teally lower for these minor scenarios. 

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    wraiththe
    177 Driver
     3 months ago

    From a driver's perspective this is an awful predicament.  Driving 15 minutes to pick up someone and finding out it is a minor late for school, then having to deny the trip.  Terrible.  Now try that three times in a row.   It is because of the insurance and I am not willing to risk it.  Not worth the money, or someone's health.  Now, I have one exception and have given this considerable thought.   If the minor is in an area that is dark or secluded and leaving them there might put them at risk, I will accept the fare.  However, I will ensure that my webcam footage for the trip is saved.   After leaving a young woman on a street as it was getting dark, I felt bad about it for a long time... if it was my daughter I would not want her in that situation...  I personally feel that older kids should be able to ride, but until parents complain... it will not change.  In fact, I would say they could be charged an additional fee for extra insurance and only use riders that have passed a background check.    I think it is also better if they do not ride alone.

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      T-RabitDriven
      200 Driver
       2 months ago

      SilviaSilvia gave me an idea. Dude, if you see a girl needs a safe transportation, just cancel the ride and turn off the Uber app. 

      Just drive her as a Samaritan (e.g. just a normal person), and you are all set.  You are allowed to drive a person with his or her consent.  and maybe seek for payment in cash at the destination or something. I feel like there is a way around this. 

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        Kendrix
        46 Driver
         2 months ago

        First of all, minors cannot give consent. However, I do see your argument. Can they ask for a ride from a stranger?  or an Uncle?  Of course they can, right? So as long as there is no provider-customer relationship, perhaps there is nothing illegal about this.

        Now the real argument is the liability, right? You are NOT the uncle but a total stranger.  You also have responsibilities when you are transporting a minor in your care.

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        wraiththe
        177 Driver
         2 months ago

        That is just too creepy.   Shirly you cannot be serious.      At least if the app is on, then there is some kind of... sort of... trust/accountability as if you are not trying to hide something.   Now, if there was a parent there... then maybe.

        I have been taking cabs since I was 12 on my own... mass transit since I was 11.  It is hard to believe the insurance laws, but I am not a lawyer.  It does seem ridiculous that we cannot give a minor a ride for what ever reason... but I certainly do not wish to get sued.  In some ways, it is a relief.  


         Sooner or later someone is going to offer a ride off the books, because if Uber/Lyft will not allow it, then I would think they have no say in preventing an independent offering them a ride for cash.    Uber will figure out how to get them rides correctly and covered.

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      SilviaSilvia
      10
       2 months ago

      Is this a problem of insurance/liability coverage or a simple "it's illegal"?   I think for those under 12 or whatever, it's easy; it's the car seat argument.  But what about those that are minors like 13~17? 

      Uber doesn't allow the usage of their service by minors but it isn't illegal for a person to drive a 17 year old person. There's nothing illegal about it. 

      Sorry I don't know this topic so well.

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    ChrisNorway1
    56
     1 year ago

    Gasp!  Oh, man.  Are you serious.  I've done this and been thinking about making it regular.

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    Bigfrank
    333 Driver Driver Rider
     11 months ago

    Obviously there a ot of stupid parents if this is rampant issue. 

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    jeffrey1987
    64 Driver
     8 months ago

    Are your kids over 18? If not, then no. Anyone under 18 cannot ride with Uber or Lyft without a parent or guardian. I will not pick kids up.

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    joeyj
    401 Driver Rider
     1 year ago

    This happens. All. The. Time. Not saying its right or a good idea but a drivers gotta make money.

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      cContino77
      145
       1 year ago

      The problem about kids is that they don't even have IDs.

      It's all fun and games until some kid gets abducted or whatever.

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    Chelly
    64
     1 year ago

    I'll let me 17 year old son use it to get home from soccer practice, maybe its not "allowed" but we have never had a problem. I also have a 13 year old son, I wouldnt let him use it alone though.

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      LG-PA
      796 Driver
       8 months ago

      typically if a driver sees a passenger like a 17 year old who may look 18 they would not ask age and assume they are 18 or over, a 13 year old drivers would most likely reject

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      g2jtx7
      3
       3 months ago

      Lmao 😭 Uber & Lyft policy riders under 18 must be accompanied by someone over 18. I'm an Uber & Lyft driver I'll accept everyone of the stupid parents ride requests they should read the terms for riders, so when their kid can't provide id showing they're 18 I'll get the cancellation fee every time. 😀